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Saturday, February 28, 2026

FRONTIER CRUCIBLE – CHATS WITH THE STAR, DIRECTOR AND PRODUCER OF THE YEAR’S BEST WESTERN, PLUS INSP’S ‘WILD WEST CHRONICLES’ SEASON 5 STARTS WEDNESDAY MARCH 4, AND MORE!

 

‘WILD WEST CHRONICLES’ SEASON 5 STARTS MARCH 4!


Season 5 trailer



Bobbi Slaski as James Masterson, Jack Elliott as Bat
photo by MorningStar Entertainment
 

This Wednesday on INSP, Bat Masterson once-again holsters his gun and draws his fountain-pen for 5th season of Wild West Chronicles. Lasting this long is no small achievement. As series Producer Gary Tarpinian puts it, “In an era in which getting a second season is tantamount to a small miracle, I have to pinch myself that we are really delivering a fifth season of this scripted, anthology series that presents the greatest true stories and characters of the Old West.” (Read my season one interview with series Producers Gary Tarpinian and Craig Miller HERE).

Lisa Eve as Little Britches, photo by Morgan Weistling

Brooke Lyne as Cattle Annie, photo by Morgan Weistling


For anyone unfamiliar with the series, they took the fact that Bat Masterson later in life became a New York newspaper reporter, chronicling the Old West, and used it as a jumping-off point. In each episode, Masterson, portrayed by Jack Elliott (read my interview with him HERE),   travels back to the West to interview witnesses or surviving participants in important, though not always famous, historical events. These are entertaining historical dramas, not docudramas with clunky reenactments and talking heads, and while writers have to invent dialogue, they hew as close to the knowable history as possible – sometimes to the writers’ disappointment. And while historical series endlessly recycle over-exposed legends like Wyatt Earp and Billy the Kid, Wild West Chronicles focuses on fascinating but less well-known figures. This season’s opener is about Bat’s less-famous brother James, and subsequent episodes are about Henry Garfias, Phoenix’s first City Marshall, and the two teenaged girls who ran off to join Bill Doolin’s gang.

Josh Feinman as Bill Doolin sure reminds me of Richard Boone
in Have Gun Will Travel, photo by Morgan Weistling


Jack Elliott’s portrayal of the cane-wielding lawman, whom he very-much resembles, produces a lot of fan-mail, often comparing him favorably to Gene Barry’s portrayal from the 1958 TV series.    

MAKING FRONTIER CRUCIBLE – PRODUCER, DIRECTOR & STAR



As I opined in my True West, Best of the West article in the January/February 2026 issue, Frontier Crucible is the best Western feature released in 2025. It’s available through Prime Video and AppleTV. The premise is simple: in 1870s Arizona, Maj. O’Rourke (William H. Macy) convinces Merrick Beckford (Myles Clohessy), a soldier-turned-cowboy, to cross Apache country, to attempt to deliver desperately-needed medicine to an isolated town. En route Beckford encounters survivors of an Apache attack: three unsavory men (Thomas Jane, Armie Hammer, Ryan Masson), a beautiful woman (Mary Stickley), and her wounded husband (Eli Brown).  Beckford can’t abandon them, he can’t trust them, and he can’t delay his mission. It’s based on the novel Desert Stake-Out by prolific pulp author Harry Whittington. ‘Based on’ is putting it mildly, as the following interviews will explain.

It's a tough, stripped-down, sophisticated, suspenseful, and very arid Western, with strong, smart characters in conflict, which recalls the collaborations of Delmer Daves and Glenn Ford, Anthony Mann and James Stewart, and especially Budd Boetticher and Randolph Scott.

In the past I’ve interviewed producer Dallas Sonnier, director Travis Mills, and star Thomas Jane on other Western films, and had the opportunity to interview all three on this collaboration.


DALLAS SONNIER – PRODUCER

Dallas Sonnier is a very busy guy, and has been for a long time. When we first spoke, it was in 2015, on the set of his and Craig Zahler’s grounding-breaking “Horror Western” Bone Tomahawk (you can read that article HERE.  ) That was Dallas’ 19th feature. Since then he’s produced 20 more movies, including Brawl in Cell Block 99, Dragged Across Concrete, Terror on the Prairie, and a half-dozen TV series. His 2019 film VFW, starring Stephen Lang, Fred Williamson and Martin Kove, is a reworking of Rio Bravo, set in a Veterans of Foreign Wars post. When we spoke in October, and I asked if he was busy, he happily replied, “I'm having an embarrassment of riches right now. We've got Muzzle: City of Wolves, the Aaron Ekhart sequel, coming out in a couple of weeks. Then Frontier Crucible December 5th, and we have The Pendragon Cycle coming out in January.” The Arthurian Pendragon miniseries, along with a number of his recent films, is produced with Ben Shapiro’s The Daily Wire +, and that’s where you need to go to stream it “We're in Los Angeles prepping a movie right now. And the John Rambo prequel is shooting in Thailand in the New Year. So it has just been absolutely bananas.”     

HENRY PARKE: I really enjoyed Terror on The Prairie without realizing it was your picture.

DALLAS SONNIER: In 2020 COVID hit, and I sold Fangoria (note: the horror movie magazine). I was getting attacked by a bunch of people internally and externally who were just so mad at me for being an outspoken conservative. Politics got crazy. And I don't even care about politics when it comes to movies; I just like making movies. So I get a phone call from The Daily Wire, Ben Shapiro's company. And I ended up selling them Run Hide Fight. I brought them Gina Carano to make the Terror movie. And we have a big King Arthur-style series; all kinds of great stuff.

HENRY PARKE: I’ll bet Daily Wire is very excited, that it's going to bring a lot of new people to them.

DALLAS SONNIER: Yes, absolutely. They need a big series, a great anchor series for them, like House of Cards was for Netflix, like Game of Thrones was for HBO.

HENRY PARKE: How did Frontier Crucible come about?

DALLAS SONNIER: S. Craig Zahler, he's a massive fan of the novelist, Harry Whittington. Probably six years ago, before COVID, he brought the book to me and he was like, this is perfect for your sort of modest budget; thoughtful, minimal locations, but great movie-star roles. You should totally convert the book to a script and shoot it. You don't need to change anything; it's all there. It's even the right length. Zahler is obviously a genius. And so I did it: I got the rights to the book, we converted it to a Final Draft file (note: screenplay software) and made the movie. There literally is no screenwriter on the movie. It's the craziest thing. I was in Budapest, then in Italy, working on the Pendragon series, and I had built up a friendship with Travis Mills over Terror on the Prairie and other movies that he helped me on. He just worked his ass off on Pendragon: he really was the ‘boots on the ground’ producer. He shot second unit, all kinds of great stuff.  <laugh> He acts in the series! And so I was like, “Yo, we gotta find a movie for you.” And at the same time, on the same set, we were really impressed by this young actor named Myles Clohessy. We just thought, this is Clint Eastwood in the ‘60s, in the Sergio Leone movies. I'm always trying to kill multiple birds with one stone, so I said, okay, I've got this project. I want to make Miles a movie star. I want to give Travis a real awesome script to direct: let's put all this together. Me and a buddy, Preston Poulter, put the money together. Then I brought on all my producers, Amanda (Presmyk) and Lily (Campbell) and David (Guglielmo) and Travis. And it was just awesome. We ended up making the movie in Prescott, Arizona. Of course, the beginning of the movie is in Monument Valley; and that's how it came together. It was just such an awesome, independently spirited movie.

HENRY PARKE: It's funny you were saying that Myles Clohessy is your new Clint Eastwood. I was thinking more Randolph Scott or Joel McCrea.

Myles Clohessey and Mary Stickley

DALLAS SONNIER: Well, yes. I mean, obviously in your world and my world, the world of the Ranown Westerns, and (Budd) Boetticher -- what an idol for us! The Randolph Scott sort of tale. Zahler and I talked about those movies a lot. Travis has seen all of them. He's a massive fan of the Boetticher films, so those were incredible influences on us.

HENRY PARKE: Mary Stickley, who's your female lead. I have not seen before, and I thought she was very strong.

DALLAS SONNIER: Yes. She was an absolute discovery by our casting director, David Guglielmo. And the real fear was she's got a thick Australian accent. We cast her over Zoom, and it was very unique. But we wanted someone who visually is so arresting that when Myles, as Beckford, sees her for the first time, his whole world is shook. You know, in our modern, stupid, over-feminized society, we've gotten so far away from feminine beauty; we really wanted someone who was physically beautiful, and we didn't want to apologize for that.

HENRY PARKE: Well, you sure found her, but she's also a really solid actress. Until I looked her up on IMDb, I would never have guessed that she was Australian.

DALLAS SONNIER: That was 90% of the prep work with her.

HENRY PARKE: I loved the manner of her dialogue. Not stilted exactly, but very formal.

DALLAS SONNIER: No, stilted is absolutely a positive word for us. It separates. The very specific cadence, the speech patterns, it lets you immerse yourself in a past time period, and you're not reminded of modern speech. That was a very specific design of ours.

HENRY PARKE: Right. And formal is perfectly appropriate for her entrance into this world, which she obviously does not belong in. I thought that was really effective. Were you at all concerned about her and Miles, being the two least known people in the film, carrying it?

Eli Brown and Mary Stickley

DALLAS SONNIER: That of course comes up all the time, especially when you're talking to agents and managers and casting; (you have) major movie stars in the other roles, and they're like, ‘Who's this guy? Who's this girl? I've never heard of her before.’ I have a unique approach to casting; I call it the reverse bell curve. I like to cast absolute unknowns or real movie stars. You either want to be able to bring a movie forward with a total discovery, like in the case of Isabel May in Run Hide Fight, for example: what a discovery! And then surround them with amazing movie stars. (Note: In 1883, Isabel May played Tim McGraw and Faith Hill’s daughter, Elsa Dutton, and walked away with the miniseries.) In Run Hide Fight, it was Thomas Jane and Radha Mitchell and Treat Williams. Or like Dragged Across Concrete, we got Mel Gibson and Vince Vaughn and Don Johnson; really stack the cast as much as possible. But even in Dragged Across Concrete, you know, Tory Kittles is the lead of the movie. So it's a fascinating approach. But yes, there was a lot of, oh my gosh, who? And I think it's great. I think Mary and Myles will both go on to be massive stars. And of course, David (Guglielmo) and Travis (Mills) deserve all the credit for casting Mary. And we all deserve all the credit for backing Miles and finding this starring role for him. So in the end, I think they're gonna be huge stars and we'll be real proud having made this movie with them so early in their careers.

HENRY PARKE: I loved Thomas Jane and Armie Hammer playing so against their usual roles.

DALLAS SONNIER: Thomas and I are very close friends. We got to know each other on Run Hide Fight. I could never do what he does, and vice versa, so we're really complimentary in that sense. He was my first phone call on this, and he was a huge Harry Whittington fan already. But you know, he normally would be playing the lead. To play the heavy, I think it was pretty fun for him. And he worked very closely with Travis, and Jeff Dawn, our amazing hair and makeup department head and partner on almost every movie at this point. They worked really hard on the mustache and the gaunt look. He brings a unique speech pattern to it, and that was all TJ's inner working and prep work. We knew we wanted Armie, so David dm’d a mutual friend of Armie, and said the producer of Bone Tomahawk has an offer for Armie. And the friend said, we love Bone Tomahawk! Send us the offer! In 48 hours we had the deal done, and we're thrilled to be his return to acting. Cancel culture is a horrible thing, and I'm proud to be at the forefront of fighting back against it. And I can't wait to work with him again.

HENRY PARKE: I'm assuming you had an unlimited budget and months to shoot.

DALLAS SONNIER: We did not <laugh>, we did not <laugh>. We shot the movie in basically four weeks, give or take, 20 days. We did all of the scenes in Prescott, Arizona, and at the very end we shot the William H. Macy scene up in Monument Valley. The tribal communities up there were so amazing to us. That's an unbelievable thing to do, for us Western fans, considering like The Searchers and She Wore a Yellow Ribbon and all. It's just unreal to be standing there, and then to add a movie camera. My gosh, what an amazing core memory.

William H. Macy with co-star, Monument Valley

HENRY PARKE:  What are the advantages of having a lean budget and a tight shooting schedule?

DALLAS SONNIER: There are, honestly none. <laugh>. Don't let anyone tell you that it made everyone come together. No, it's just miserable <laugh>. I'm teasing. It’s like the scene in The Alamo where Col. Travis draws the sword and the line in the sand and says, if you step across this line, you're in till the finish, till death, and if you wanna leave, leave now. When you have a very modest budget picture, and working with me is an acquired taste <laugh>. You draw that line in the sand, the people that come over the line and work with you on the movie are family for life. They're in the trenches with you, and they want to make something they can be really be proud of. And so that's it's really; budget and limitations are a dividing line to separate the wheat from the chaff, you know?

HENRY PARKE: Looking back on the film, I thought there was not a single interior.

DALLAS SONNIER: Yeah, <laugh>, there was in the book. The William H. Macy scene does take place in an office, and that's the one creative liberty. When we decided to shoot in Arizona, I said, guys, we gotta just move that scene to Monument Valley. Working with Macy was amazing. That scene was shot on the last day. We picked him up from the Phoenix Airport, drove him up to Monument Valley. He carries a ukulele with him everywhere he goes. So on the drive up, he was playing funny songs. And then on the set in between takes, he was singing for the cast and crew. I mean, what an amazing guy. He came in and just nailed the scene. Just working with an absolute acting legend in a setting that is so iconic for Westerns, and all the people we grew up loving and have such reverence for. It felt like we were amongst the gods, you know what I mean? It was just a wonderful feeling. And when it was all over that night, we went and had a drink together, and then we drove home the next morning, and that was it. And it was over <laugh>, and it's like, oh, man, I could have lived there <laugh>!

TRAVIS MILLS – DIRECTOR

William H. Macy and Travis Mills

I first met Ecuador-born, Arizona-based filmmaker Travis Mills when he was working with British Punk/Western filmmaker and film historian Alex Cox on Tombstone Rashomon in 2017. Mills made his mark on the film industry when he succeeded with his audacious self-challenge, directing 12 Westerns in 12 months.  Alex Cox, and his new Western, Dead Souls, will be the focus of the March Round-up.

Henry Parke: I was just talking to Alex Cox about when you were helping him with casting on Tombstone Rashomon.

Travis Mills: Yeah, it was back in 2016, and I did everything from producing to casting to scooping up the horse poop in the streets of Old Tucson.

Henry Parke: And now you've already directed more Western features than probably anyone else alive. Why did you want to do this one in particular?

Travis Mills: Well, I did the 12 Westerns in 12 months in 2020. Made a couple Westerns before and after that. And Dallas Sonnier, the producer of this one, showed me the script of Frontier Crucible back in 2021. One of the best westerns I've read: kind of a newer, violent version of The Tall T; wonderful characters, rich dialogue. When he first showed me the script, someone else would've directed it. He just wanted my help producing it because of my experience with Westerns. Then eventually I earned Dallas's trust and he said, “This is a project that you should really direct.” And I thought well, I'm gonna take everything that I've learned from these 15 other Westerns that I've made and put it into one film, and try to make the best Western that I've ever made with the most resources I've ever had.

Henry Parke: You did a hell of a job. It brings back the sort of Randolph Scott, Joel McCrea Westerns, but with a harder edge.

Travis Mills: That’s great to hear.

Henry Parke: Dallas told me that before Frontier Crucible, you were also a great help on Terror on The Prairie.

Travis Mills: Yeah, that was another one where I was the quote unquote Swiss Army knife. <laugh>. They brought me in to produce because I'd made all these Westerns. That was the first movie I made with Dallas. He says, this guy knows the genre, bring him to Montana. And they learned that I can do a lot of things; I performed the movie's biggest stunts. I played a character and even shot our B camera for three of the four weeks. So I did about everything you can do.

Henry Parke: Were you familiar with author Harry Whittington before this?

Travis Mills: I was not. I learned about him when I first read the script.

Henry Parke: What particularly appealed to you about the Frontier Crucible story?

Travis Mills: I think that a lot of modern westerns have lost the plot in terms of what really makes a Western. Everybody's focused on the aesthetics: the cowboy hats, the horses, the gunfights and all that. But they don't understand the thematic importance of the genre. The idea of moral codes, competing moral codes. And when you go back to the Budd Boetticher films -- The Tall T, Ride Lonesome -- that's what it's all about. You've got the hero who's got his moral code, you've got the villain who has his, those are clashing, and that's what it's all about. I thought this script did that well in a way that most modern Westerns don't. It had a hero who is sticking to his code the way that Randolph Scott would've. And you have a villain who isn't pure evil, he just has his understanding of the world and his code to stick by. And that's what makes it really interesting.

Henry Parke: With your 12 westerns in 12 months, you were working with actors who had not yet made their mark in the industry. Was this your first time directing stars? How did you like it?

Travis Mills: I directed a non-Western with stars in 2015, a movie with Tom Sizemore and Peter Bogdanovich called Durant Never Closes. And I haven't since. It was wonderful to work with Thomas Jane and Armie Hammer and William H. Macy. Thomas Jane is one of those actors that the collaboration is definitely iron sharpens iron. He's challenging me on what the scene is, I'm challenging him, and you get something better every time because of that. Armie Hammer, honestly, is my favorite actor that I've ever worked with. Wonderful guy, super sweet, very smart, adaptable to anything that I threw his way, would incorporate all of my ideas, and be up for trying anything. I would work with him again in a heartbeat. And of course, William H. Macy is a legend, and being able to shoot with him in Monument Valley was the ultimate honor.

Armie Hammer in his first Western since The Lone Ranger

Henry Parke: How did making a dozen westerns in a year help with Frontier Crucible?

Travis Mills: When you make a movie, inevitably you make mistakes. And I’ve always been one to say, I'm not gonna sit there and try to make one perfect film. I'm gonna be a working filmmaker, and learn from these mistakes as I go. And working in the genre so much. I got to see the weaknesses in writing and performances. How to work with horses, how to work with guns, how to shoot action sequences. I put myself through Western Bootcamp <laugh>, and just applied all of those things. Not to mention, when you make all those films, you meet the armorer that you wanna work with, the horse people you like, the wagon people you like. You develop not just a stock company of actors, but a stock company of crew that you can bring to Frontier Crucible. One of the reasons we shot in Arizona is because I told Dallas, this is where I have my base of resources.

Henry Parke: Speaking of Arizona, how did you like your locations?

Travis Mills: Unbelievable location. It does not sound hard to find a water-hole in the desert, but it's actually turns out that it's not an easy location to find. And some of our options were in National Forests, National Parks, with a lot of red tape to get permission. I lucked out finding our spot in Prescott, Arizona and Watson Lake. I was using Google Maps, looking at a different location, stumbled upon Watson Lake, scouted it in Prescott with the wonderful Film Commissioner, Samara Rice there. And if I had known about Prescot, and some of the locations around Prescott, years ago, I probably would've made all of my westerns there, because you can shoot scenes where it looks like you're in the middle of nowhere, but in fact, you're 10 minutes from Chick-fil-A. So it's the ideal place to be making a Western movie and not be out in the middle of nowhere.

Henry Parke: Were you concerned that your two leads will not be familiar faces to the audience?

Travis Mills: I think there's something wonderful about working with fresh faces. Because when we see people we've seen time and time again, they bring such a history with them, which can be a benefit. But also you're sitting there watching Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise or whoever, and thinking about who they are off-screen and all their other roles. Whereas here we have Myles Clohessey and Mary Stickley, and this is gonna be most audience members’ first time ever watching them. I think that they will see them as Merrick Beckford and Valerie, and be able to lose themselves in the performances. Myles does such a wonderful job of carrying the film. I know at an early test screening, people who were completely unfamiliar with him said he has very much a Clint Eastwood vibe, and that was wonderful to hear.

Henry Parke: Would you like a longer shooting schedule on your next feature, or do you prefer having a lean budget and a tight schedule?

Travis Mills: <laugh> I think every filmmaker would like a longer shooting schedule, but I pride myself in being able to shoot a script like this, which was a fairly long script, 120 pages, in 18 days. Again, that comes from my history in the micro-budget world and being very efficient with coverage and keeping things moving along. So sure, I will take more days of shooting anytime anyone will give it to me. But the bigger the crew, the harder it is to move quickly, because there’re lots of elements that you have to get in motion and keep in motion.

Henry Parke: Any favorite memories of the shoot?

Travis Mills: Two things. I can't say enough about how important prep is. I was fortunate to spend three weeks of prep with our director of photography, Maxime Alexandre. Wonderful man who I worked with in Europe before this. And those three weeks is what led to our success on the project. Because we were on location every single day talking through the shots. That time, being in the environment, soaking up the world, creating the visual style of the film, and then eating a lot of hamburgers, was probably my favorite memory. One other story. On our final day in Prescott, we filmed the entire fight scene that happens at the end, the climax of the movie, in one day. As usual, we were running out of light, and we got what is the final scene, the final two, three shots of the film and the last bit of light that could possibly be in the sky. And it's gorgeous. But those little moments where you realize, if we had moved a minute or two slower, then we might not have gotten it; this is nerve-wracking, but also there's a feeling of victory when you get it all in the can.

THOMAS JANE - ACTOR


Don't mess with Thomas Jane!
 

Thomas Jane needs, as they say, no introduction, having been a busy actor since the early ‘90s with roles in Face/Off, Boogie Nights, Thin Red Line, then a leading man in films as varied as The Velocity of Gary, Deep Blue Sea, The Punisher, and so many more.

Henry Parke: I really enjoyed your performance in Frontier Crucible, and it was such fun to see you play someone so unlike your usual heroic characters. How did you like playing someone so charming, but ultimately the bad guy?

Thomas Jane: This is, for me, an homage to all the wonderful character actors that worked throughout the fifties and sixties, that would come in and play these western archetypes that I so enjoyed as a youth. So it was really fun to slip into the role. The part is really well-written. Also I’m a big Harry Whittington fan. There's another book he wrote, Ticket to Hell, and I actually have adapted that into a screenplay, and I'm hoping that we can get that going one day. We have a little rights issue right now, but the combination of Whittington and the throwback Western story that this script follows were turn-ons for me.

Henry Parke: My favorite of your lines, because I thought it summed up your character so well, was, “As long as I'm alive, I'm going to explore every option.”

Thomas Jane: Yeah, that's pretty much the guy <laugh>.

Henry Parke: It was also interesting to see you playing a character older than yourself. The mustache really helped. How did you approach it?

Thomas Jane: The obstacle is my ego. Getting over the fact that I'm gonna age myself up on screen. And I did a great job! You know, people lived a rougher life. They aged quicker, they died quicker, and that was definitely part of the character. The hard-scrabble kind of guys that survived into older age had to be extremely tough. So part of wearing the mask of that character, that helped me get into the spirit of the thing, was aging myself up. Not only physically, but internally as well. I had a lot of fun playing the part.

Henry Parke: Was it a physically difficult shoot?

Thomas Jane: We shot in Arizona in October. The days warmed up, sometimes into the seventies, so the weather was perfect, the light was great. You get that fall sun that's lower in the sky. Shooting was a bit difficult for the night stuff; we were freezing our butts off out there, but that's just part of the gig. And I enjoyed the exterior of it all. You know, character-wise and just getting into the story, it really helps when you've got real rocks and dirt <laugh> under your feet. We didn't have sets to build. It was just a bunch of characters outdoors, which I also was attracted to. I like those kinds of stories, where it takes place over one period of time. I also like characters that don't change costumes. You can take a jacket off, you can take your hat off, but what you see is what you get. I'm always attracted to characters like that.

Henry Parke: Your director, Travis Mills, has probably directed more westerns than anyone else alive at the moment. What is he like to work with?

Thomas Jane: He certainly loves the genre, which is a prerequisite for doing a good Western: you gotta know the genre. And he knows it like the back of his hand. He gave me a couple of Westerns to watch, the names escape me, but there's one with Robert Ryan, terrific little Western. The homework on these things is always fun.

Henry Parke: With the actors clustered around the wagon for most of the film, it was very much an ensemble piece. You lock horns with Armie Hammer. How do you like working with him?

Thomas Jane: I gotta tell you, he's wonderfully astute. He is very well educated and has a spark of life that is very charismatic. He's a good dude. He's done a lot of work on himself, as we all should. I had a wonderful experience with Hammer.

Henry Parke: I was not familiar with Ryan Masson, who played your son, but I thought he was very effective and I really liked your relationship.

Thomas Jane: He was great, a young actor who fell right into it. I thought he was perfect for my son. I look forward to seeing more from that kid.

Henry Parke: Is it true that all of you did your own stunts?

Thomas Jane: We sure did. We had tussling and fighting and falling -- all the fun stuff that you get to do in a Western, and we're on hard ground. With the weather being crisp, you've got to limber up, and I didn't quite limber up enough one day, and I messed my shoulder up for quite a while. You always get little souvenirs from these type of things.

Henry Parke: Any favorite memories from the making of the film?

Thomas Jane: You know, I'm not a morning person; never have been. My clock is set in reverse, so that makes me allergic to sunrises. But on this film, you're getting there before dawn, and you're quitting when you run out of light. And the crisp Arizona air and the gorgeous surroundings woke me up every day. And that was a real joy, to participate in the lovely rhythm of the mornings, which I am not particularly used to. So that was a novel experience that I enjoyed very much.

Henry Parke: What keeps you coming back to the Western genre?

Thomas Jane: I have a love of the genre, and I'm just so happy that we're still making them. The Western has gone through fallow periods, but also rich periods. And I'd love to see a serious revival. What we need is a really strong Western; I haven't seen one since Unforgiven, to be honest. What we need is a great one, and then we'll have another period where we can spend a little bit more money making them. Most of them have become lower budget affairs, which is fine; we don't need a lot of money to make a great Western, which is also appealing. The essence of the Western is the conflict between the individual freedom of man versus the constraints and rules and laws of civilization. You can find that thread in most Westerns. That's a central theme that I'm attracted to, that I come back to over and over.

GOODBYE TO THE BOBBYS, DUVALL AND CARRADINE


We’ve recently lost two Western film legends, Robert Duvall at 95, and Robert Carradine at 71. Duvall I interviewed at some length, and he was fascinating man, and a great talent, and gave me wonderful, candid answers to my questions about his work. Below are links to the two articles I wrote about him for True West, the first an interview, the second a look at his Western film career. I’m currently writing a third, focusing on the making of Lonesome Dove.

The Godfather of Westerns

https://www.truewestmagazine.com/article/the-godfather-of-westerns-2/

Robert Duvall – A Western Career

https://www.truewestmagazine.com/article/robert-duvall-a-western-career/

Me and Bobby Carradine after a Lone Pine parade


I not only had the opportunity to interview Bobby Carradine, I got to spend time with him socially at luncheons and film festivals. He had a great sense of humor and simply could not have been a nicer guy, easy-going but out-going, always letting you know he was glad to see you. Below is a link to my True West interview with him which, like the Robert Duvall interview, is featured in my book, The Greatest Westerns Ever Made and the People Who Made Them. Also below is a link to my INSP article about The Cowboys 50th anniversary, for which I interviewed Robert Carradine.

Robert Carradine – Born to the West

https://www.truewestmagazine.com/article/born-to-the-west/

50th Anniversary of The Cowboys – Where Are They Now?

https://www.insp.com/stories/the-cowboys-1972-50th-anniversary-cast-where-are-they-now/

 

RENDEZVOUS WITH A WRITER


On my February appearance on the show, I joined hosts Bobbi Jean Bell and Jim Bell in discussing The Undiscovered Country with its author, the respected western historian and True West writer Paul Andrew Hutton. Here are the links.

To listen: https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-kwd42-1a41b82

To listen and see our happy, smiling faces: https://www.facebook.com/rendezvouswithawriter/videos/4397616237229104

MY RECENT INSP ARTICLES


Zane Grey and the Western Movie

https://www.insp.com/stories/zane-grey-and-the-western-movie/

Louis L’Amour and Zane Grey – Two Western Titans

https://www.insp.com/stories/louis-lamour-and-zane-grey-two-western-titans/

TRUE WEST MAGAZINE


Please check out our January/February Annual Best of the West Issue! Here’s the link to my article: https://www.truewestmagazine.com/article/western-movies-a-year-of-westerns-on-hold/

…AND THAT’S A WRAP!

Don’t forget that Season 5 of Old West Chronicles begins on INSP Wednesday night, March 4th! And Thursday night, March 5th, join me and hosts Bobbi Jean Bell and Jim Bell for Rendezvous with a Writer on L.A. Talk Radio, where our guests will be True West President and Executive Editor Bob Boze Bell, and True West Editor at Large and Western Writers of America Vice President Stuart Rosebrook!

Happy Trails, Henry

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Saturday, November 23, 2024

KEVIN COSTNER ON HOPES FOR ‘HORIZON 1-4’, CRAIG ‘LONGMIRE’ JOHNSON ON HIS NEWEST NOVELLA, 'GUNSMOKE' AUCTION, PLUS AUSSIE WESTERN SERIES ‘TERRITORY’, UPCOMING ‘FRONTIER CRUCIBLE’!

 

KEVIN COSTNER ON ‘HORIZON’


“I love what I do. I feel privileged to be able to do it. It has been a struggle, but it was a struggle for my crew too. Just to give you an example, I shot Dances with Wolves in 106 days. And Horizon, the first one, is arguably as big as that, if not bigger. We shot it in 52 days. No one stopped working. No one was late. [Everyone] was ready.” -- Kevin Costner

 

On Tuesday night, November 12th, at the Angelika Theatre in New York’s West Village, Horizon, an American Saga, Chapter One, was screened for an audience of mostly members of various film guilds. Afterwards, star, director and co-writer Kevin Costner took to the stage with actress Ella Hunt, and Mara Webster of In Creative Company. Mara interviewed Kevin and Ella about making Horizon, and the following quotes from Kevin Costner are in answer to Mara’s questions.

Ella Hunt, Kevin Costner, Mara Webster

For those who have not yet seen Horizon, Chapter One, the title is the name of a town-to-be which an unscrupulous and thus-far unseen businessman has promoted as heaven-on-Earth to many would-be pioneers. Costner, who doesn’t appear for the first hour, plays Hayes Ellison, a horse trader who inadvertently gets thrust into a feud. Ella Hunt plays Juliette Chesney, a privileged Englishwoman travelling by wagon-train with her artist husband, both of them woefully unprepared for the trip, and clueless as to what’s expected of them. Costner’s and Hunt’s characters do not meet in Chapter One, but doubtless will in Chapter Two.

Mara Webster began by pointing out that Costner had been trying to put together Horizon since 1988, and wondered how having a 35-year gestation period affected the project. (Note: I spoke to Kevin Costner in 2019 for True West – here’s the link: https://truewestmagazine.com/article/kevin-costner/ -- an updated version of my interview is in my book, The Greatest Westerns Ever Made and the People Who Made Them -- and we had discussed Horizon, a project that he wanted to make: “I have a Western that I really want to make; I just can’t find the rich guys that want to make it—an epic Western.”)
“Well, I was certainly ready to make it. I wasn't sure I'd find somebody like Ella. And I'm not sure Ella was born when I started thinking about this thing (note: Ella Hunt was born in 1998). It's an unusual story about Ella. It hasn't happened to me very often -- it happened to me once in Dances with Wolves. Robert Pastorelli (note: Candice Bergen’s useless apartment maintenance man from Murphy Brown) came in to read a part. And he came in spats, he had his bowling shirt on, and his gold ‘goomba’ stuff. And the part I had picked out for him -- I just looked at him -- he started reading and I said, ‘Robert, just stop for a second.’ I took his sides out of his hand. There was another (role), this dirty teamster, and I handed him those sides, and he made history with it. He was such an incredible actor. (Note: Pastorelli died in 2004, at age 49.) And when I first met Ella, she was going to read for the daughter (of a pioneer family), and I didn't take the sides out of her hand, but I made a switch right there, that she would play this incredible character, that we would be asking to do so much. She just has this incredible beauty and youngness about her. But there's some incredible maturity about her too.”

Tom Payne and Ella Hunt

“I thought he was joking,” Hunt responded. “And then was incredibly flattered, and daunted, as Juliette is a character who is very tested over the course of these films… I think one of the very special things about Kevin as a director is…the belief that he invests in all of the people around him. I'm so grateful that you looked at me and thought that I could do that. And now, because of Juliette, I've gone on to do things that I wouldn't have allowed myself to. I've just played Gilda Radner (note: in the new film, Saturday Night).”

In answer to Webster’s question about how Costner chooses when to shoot closely, intimately, and when to “see the impact of the landscape,” he replied, “Well, we did go to places that still exist in America. It's if you're willing to get out of chasing a rebate. For me, that was important, to have these landscapes that went on forever. But you know, we're not making a travelogue. And eventually it boils down to what is the story, and it shrinks down. And when someone can dominate the horizon, this giant landscape, you have to find scenes that are so intimate to set against it. And so we created scenes where my actors swallow this horizon. They're so strong that you forget about how far the country goes. You realize the pain and what they're going through. I like to think of the Western as our Shakespeare. This is not a series of ‘yeps’ and ‘nopes’. It was a Victorian age and people did have the ability to express themselves really beautifully. You have Danny Houston giving us a speech, which I equate to James Earl Jones' speech in Field of Dreams, Danny explaining Manifest Destiny. And you get someone like Ella, who shows the most intimate moment of a woman who is just tired of being dirty, and just the feel of water. And when you watch her perform that moment, and look in that mirror, (you) also understand how cold that night was. You know, that scene has as much place for me in a Western as a gunfight. It had to be there.”

Asked how he gave familiar genre elements a deeper context, Costner replied, “Well, I tried to break with Westerns because I don't like a lot of Westerns; most of them aren't very good. And the black-and-whites that we grew up with, they were so simple, they were a mainstay of our televisions, our theater. But they often were too simple for me. The black hat, the white hat, the way people dressed. But the thing that stood out for me, what had been missing almost in every way -- and it took a while for it to dawn on me -- is every western has a town. But they're not like mushrooms: they didn't just come up. There was a terrible struggle that took place. And it took place from sea to shining sea. Every inch of that land was fought for, was contested. Where our great cities exist, (there) were (already) people. They know where the good places were to live. And we did too, and we kind of wiped them out. But that was not ever talked about in any Westerns: the towns always exist. And I started wondering, what would it be like to see the beginning of something? There was nothing there, there was a (new) group of people that had found a level of equilibrium that made peace with the (native) people to such a degree that they were getting along. [As the film begins,] the first image is a surveyor stick that goes into an ant hill. And we disrupted their way of life. And what you'll see when you see all four -- and I hope that you do -- is you'll see the struggle: this town burns and is rebuilt and burns and rebuilt, and finally there's a tipping point in the West. And it was just simply numbers. They (the natives) never stood a chance. But I also don't want to be embarrassed about the ingenuity and the bravery and the spontaneity and the courage that it took for people to cross that Mississippi and go there. It's not a land in Disneyland; it was contested, it was real. The country was founded in the East, but its character was really formed in the West with this constant battle.

Tom Payne, Ella Hunt, Kevin Costner 

“I think we've had enough of heroes having buffoons to knock down. When you face formidable people, it makes for a more interesting movie. When you believe in the behavior -- it's not really possible for one guy to beat up everybody in the bar. Everybody assumes that everybody could ride a horse, or fix a wagon, or make a fire. If you stick with the reality, there can be a lot of drama in the West, and a lot of danger. Something that I gravitated to when I was little, was when I saw children in a movie being able to survive in an adult world; I leaned into the movie more. But when children were stupid in movies, where directors or writing made them stupid, I leaned away. And I think that with all our CGI, with all our great effects that we have to build our movies up, when we don't invest in character, in behavior, those things aren't any good to us. When we see ourselves is when our greatest joy happens in the theater.

“I do like to make these movies, and when I started writing this with Jon (Baird) in 1988, it's safe to say that no one really wanted to make it. And in 2003, the studio wouldn't make it for 5 million more dollars. And I was distressed about that. I went on to make other movies, but I couldn't leave this one behind. And I was so mad that they didn't understand the first one, that I decided to write four more. (The audience laughs.) And everybody goes, oh yeah, that's Kevin! Jon and I, we started writing, and again, I wasn't writing to please anybody, I was trying to please myself because I think that's my best chance at pleasing you.


“I do love horses running fast. I do love the mountains and rivers that never end. And I do love the gunfight if it's orchestrated correctly. But what surprised me was when I looked up or looked down, with Jon Baird, who I am completely indebted to, was that every story had women running right down the middle. So here I had these Big Four Cowboy Movies, and women almost dominate -- and Ella dominates Chapter Two.  I just found that I couldn't tell the story that I was trying to, without making women dominant. It was a surprise to me. I don't know if fate was just moving my hand. I go, ‘Not another woman! Come on! Where's the gun fight?’ But I loved how their struggle fit so perfectly in the West. I'm proudest of the script, that Jon Baird allowed these actors to feast on with myself.”

An audience member asked if all four parts of Horizon are written. “They're all written, so this is not a case of ‘we don't know where it's going.’ We know exactly where it's going. I don't know why four movies is what's in my head, but that's what it is. And so I will push the rock uphill to find the money to do this. So that one day you'll have these four, and I hope this is a Treasure Island on your bookshelf of electronic films. I hope you have it to show your friends, to revisit it and see the details, see the nuances and choices that these actors made because it was really extraordinary acting going on in an American Western. There's a notion that things are easy for me. I guess maybe they are, if I do the things that people want me to do, and it's not that I am a contrary person. I'm not even an avant garde person for crying out loud. I make movies with horses and campfires, but I do it with an edge. It's not always in vogue. But I'm so happy to be able to do it. And I won't rest until I'm done. And I will figure it out. If I can't find that billionaire, I will look to myself like I did on One and Two. But there will be four.”

An audience member asked Costner how he made period films seem so contemporary. “Well, I think that in every generation we have abusive people. We have peeping toms -- we had them on the wagon train. So I can blend the same difficulties that we have in life and bring them right into the frontier. We have the sociopath; we have acts of kindness. There were guns and there was alcohol and a lot of times there weren't very many women. People were angry. And you run into a person that's just killed somebody and there's a bloodlust. (Note: the following refers to a scene where he’s going up a hill to see the prostitute Marigold, played by Abbey Lee, and is stalked and goaded by gunman Jamie Bower playing Caleb Sykes.) Jamie Bower, who walked up that hill with me – that actor's amazing. So we have a gun fight -- I’m not trying to reinvent the Western. But what I was really interested in was the walk up the hill; that this was a bully, and we've all encountered them in school and at work. And this was somebody that was coming out of a blood lust. He had just killed someone. He'd just been humiliated by his brother. And that was just as interesting to me. A studio might say, ‘Just get to the gunfight for crying out loud, Kevin!’ And I'm in love with the walk. I think I'm always going to be in love with the walk.”

Jamie Bower and Kevin Costner

An audience member notes the industry’s lack of interest in passion projects, and asks Costner where his wellspring of determination and hope comes from. “I just believe. I believe in story so much. I believe I have a secret in my pocket, and I just can't wait to share it). The only thing that's disappointing to me is I can't be you, and see this for the very first time like you just saw it: I wanted people to make a movie like this for me. But I can't lose my enthusiasm. No one can break me, break my spirit. I do get down, do wonder how I'm going to go on, but I love my actors. I just love that I found my Yellow Brick Road a long time ago, when I didn't figure to have any future. I got D’s and F’s in high school, where you're supposed to at least be kind of good.


“I found myself. And to be here in front of you, to be able to share what I love with people who share and have a passion that runs so deep, it's so personal, every detail. And I hope that you see them, (the Horizon films) and you revisit them the same way. When I watched Wizard of Oz, I didn't know the horses change color. I should have, because there's the line, ‘A horse of a different color.’ Every time I watch that, I see something new. And that's what I want from my movies. My movies. They have to be more than just an opening weekend. They have to be a lifetime.”

 

CRAIG ‘LONGMIRE’ JOHNSON JOINS ‘RENDEZVOUS WITH A WRITER’ TO DISCUSS HIS NEWEST NOVELLA, ‘TOOTH AND CLAW’


On the first Thursday of every month, I have the pleasure of being ‘in the limelight,’ joining hosts Bobbi Jean and Jim Bell on their weekly Rendezvous with a Writer podcast, where I present the month’s news in the world of film and TV Westerns, and take part in their interview with a guest writer. On November 7th, that guest was Longmire creator Craig Johnson, who was announcing the publication of his newest novella, Tooth and Claw. This story takes Longmire and Henry Standing Bear back to the Vietnam War years, and their adventures in Alaska among polar bears and bad men. The link below will bring you to the podcast: 

https://www.facebook.com/bobbi.j.bell/videos/8753051584737954

 

AUSSIE WESTERN SERIES ‘TERRITORY’ ON NETFLIX

Robert Taylor, Sam Corlett

Actor Robert Taylor, who starred as the title character on the phenomenally popular Longmire, has two series this year. He plays Jackson Gibbs, a continuing character on NCIS: Origins, and for Netflix, he stars as Colin Lawson, the patriarch of the Lawson family, who are 5th generation owners of the largest cattle-station in Australia. (Note: what Americans call ranches, Australians call stations.) It’s stated in the first of six episodes that it’s the size of Belgium, which I suspect is roughly the size of Yellowstone. In the opener, the son that Colin has been grooming to take over the family business meets an ugly fate, and the others scramble to take his position. I found the first episode gripping, and will definitely watch more.    

JANET ARNESS DISCUSSES JULIEN’S ‘GUNSMOKE’ AUCTION

On November 15th, Julien’s held a Western-themed, largely Gunsmoke auction in the Hollywood Museum, former home of Max Factor glamour empire. There were 568 lots up for bids, 230 from the estate of TV’s Matt Dillon, James Arness. I had the pleasure of discussing the auction before the fact with Jim’s widow, Janet Arness, for an article for the INSP blog. Here is the link: https://www.insp.com/blog/what-janet-arness-thinks-of-the-gunsmoke-auction/

Incidentally, I’m writing another INSP follow-up article on how the auction turned out.

 

THOMAS JANE, ARMIE HAMMER TO STAR IN ‘FRONTIER CRUCIBLE’

Thomas Jane from Murder at Yellowstone City




Johnny Depp and an un-masked Lone Ranger, Armie Hammer

Shooting in Monument Valley and Prescott, Arizona beginning this month, Frontier Crucible will be rolling camera under the direction of Travis Mills, who gained attention when he made good on his audacious pledge to make 12 Westerns in 12 months – during Covid, no less! In the post-Civil War drama set in Arizona Territory, Myles Clohessy is an ex-soldier who throws in with outlaws lead by Jane, and a couple, Mary Stickley and Ed Brown, to fight against common enemies. The role for Hammer, the screen’s most recent Lone Ranger, was not specified. Also in the cast is Eddie Spears. Producer Dallas Sonnier pitched the project as Reservoir Dogs meets Bone Tomahawk, and he in fact produced Bone Tomahawk, as well as 2022’s Terror on the Prairie. (Click HERE to read about my visit to the Bone Tomahawk set, and my interview with Dallas Sonnier https://henryswesternroundup.blogspot.com/2015/10/bone-tomahawk-review-interviews-plus.html )

…AND THAT’S A WRAP!


Please check out the new November/December issue of True West Magazine, featuring my article celebrating the 50th anniversary of Sam Peckinpah’s classic, Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid – I was fortunate enough to interview Peckinpah’s assistant Katy Haber, film editor and historian Paul Seydor, and one of the movie’s last living stars – although he’s the first one killed onscreen – Charles Martin Smith. And the next Round-up will feature my interview with Michael Feifer on the eve of directing his 8th Western!

Much obliged,

Henry C. Parke

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