James Drury and Clu Gulager
On Saturday, September 22nd, eight series
regulars, a handful of guest stars, and hundreds of fans from all over the
country converged at the Autry Center in Griffith
Park to celebrate the 50th
Anniversary of one of the finest Western series of all time, THE
VIRGINIAN. It was a time not only to wax
sentimental about the 249 episodes that ran from 1962 to 1971, but to celebrate
their rebirth to a new audience!
Coinciding with the celebration, INSP Television was holding a VIRGINIAN
marathon to mark both the anniversary, and the series’ return to the airwaves,
as it will now be part of their SADDLEUP SATURDAY line-up, along with BONANZA,
BIG VALLEY and starting just last week THE HIGH CHAPARRAL (I don’t know how my
wife’s going to get me out of the house on Saturdays!).
THE VIRGINIAN was ground-breaking in many ways. It was the first Western series to run 90
minutes, and in color. It was, in
effect, a new Western feature film every week, thirty or so per year, for nine
years. But it was also ground-breaking
in less obvious ways. While great actors
had guest-starred on series like WAGON TRAIN, no western series ever before
had, as a regular, an actor of the
stature of Lee J. Cobb. He’d created the
role of Willy Loman in DEATH OF A SALESMAN; he’d been nominated for Oscars for
ON THE WATERFRONT and THE BROTHERS KARAMAZOV.
The other actors in the series were not only a much more than a cut
above average, James Drury, Doug McClure and (in later seasons) Clu Gulager
were real honest-to-gosh cowboys. And
the first producer of the series, Charles Marquis Warren, was the man behind
the first seasons of GUNSMOKE and RAWHIDE; for quality, no other producer’s
Western credits could match his.
The day was divided into screenings, very
up-close-and-personal autograph sessions, a wonderful panel discussion, and a
chuck-wagon banquet. I had the
opportunity to sit and talk with a number of stars from the show.
Roberta Shore
First I spoke to Roberta
Shore who, aside from
shorter hair, looks very much as she did when she was Judge Garth’s daughter
Betsy. “I was on the first three
seasons.” Prior to that, she’d appeared
on THE MICKEY MOUSE CLUB, as Annette Funicello’s nemesis on the ‘Annette’
series-within-a-series, and as a French girl, opposite Tim Considine, in THE
SHAGGY DOG. I asked her what the
transition from Disney to Universal Studios was like.
ROBERTA: Well, with Disney, it was with all the kids, the
Mouseketeers, and it was a fun lot. It
was a different atmosphere, but they were both equally as fun.
HENRY: What were your
favorite episodes?
ROBERTA: Probably my
favorite one was with Robert Redford.
That was a fun show.
Roberta, Jim Drury and Lee J. Cobb
Charles Bickford, Sara Lane, Don Quine
HENRY: Prior to THE
VIRGINIAN you were doing a lot of TV dramas like THE FUGITIVE, 12 O’CLOCK HIGH
and PEYTON PLACE . The only Western that I know you did prior
was an episode of RAWHIDE.
DON QUINE: That is correct.
HENRY: After all that
modern-day drama, how did you feel about going into Westerns?
DON QUINE: I had
trepidations, quite honestly. I had
thought, ‘Well, it’s another
western.’ And there were so many of
them, and I didn’t know what was going to happen. But the scripts were good, and the family
dynamics worked really nice, Charles Bickford playing the grandfather, Sara
over here was my sister. So it worked
out quite well. It went on to be the
most successful season they had in the show.
Their ratings had dropped down in the 4th season; then they
brought the new family in. Sent us out
on a national tour, and we shot up to number eleven, and everyone was very
pleased.
HENRY: Now Charles
Bickford was one of my favorite actors, and a stern and scary guy
onscreen. What was he like offscreen?
DON QUINE:
(Laughs) He was a pretty scary
guy. He was a very pragmatic man,
incredible business man, suffered no fools.
What you saw was basically Charley Bickford.
HENRY: What about the
other actors on the show?
DON QUINE: Well, I
probably spent the most time with Doug (McClure) than anybody else.
Me and Don Quine
HENRY: Was it difficult joining the show several seasons in,
when everybody else had worked together for a long time?
DON QUINE: Well no,
because they got rid of everybody in the show but Jim and Doug.
HENRY: Did you have
any particular favorite guest stars you worked with?
DON QUINE: Yes I did;
Aldo Ray, who was in a show called, I think, JACOB WAS A PLAIN MAN as a deaf
mute. He was wonderful; an outstanding
performance. Jo Van Fleet in a thing
called LEGACY OF HATE. Actually that was
the first show that we did, and it set up the relationship with the
family. A lot of good shows.
HENRY: You never did
another Western after THE VIRGINIAN. Do
you like Westerns? Do you watch them on
your own time?
DON QUINE: I do; in
fact, one of my favorite films of all time is UNFORGIVEN.
HENRY: The John
Huston one or the Clint Eastwood one?
DON QUINE: The Clint
Eastwood one. The Huston one was really
good too, but I think the Clint Eastwood one is one of the great, great
westerns. Pretty gritty.
HENRY: All through
high school I had a poster of you over my bed.
You’re on the phone, saying, “I SAW WHAT YOU DID, AND I KNOW WHO YOU
ARE!” What was it like, doing that film
for William Castle?
HENRY: When you
joined the cast of THE VIRGINIAN you were about fifteen.
SARA: Actually I was
about seventeen, and I was playing sixteen or seventeen, because when you’re
fifteen, they don’t let you have crushes on the outlaws.
HENRY: What was it
like coming into a show that was that established? Was it hard to become part of the family?
SARA: You know, we
had the best of both worlds, because it was established, so it knew what it was
doing. But we came in as a whole new
family. So it wasn’t one person coming
in. Although two beloved persons did
leave, because Roberta and Danny were adored, by the people on the set, and by
the fans. But we came in as a little
show within an already established show.
So we had the best.
HENRY: I always
admired your wardrobe. Who did your
clothes on the show?
SARA: (scoffs) Who did
my clothes! Be serious! We wore hand-me-downs, but luckily they were
beautiful hand-me-downs. (holding up a
picture) I was so proud of this; I
thought this was the one outfit that they had made for me special, and Roberta
said no, they had made it for her special. I wore the clothes of anyone whose size was
nearly mine. I wore Doris Day’s
clothes. In the movies they would make
whole new wardrobes. For the TV shows we
got to wear all those wonderful clothes.
So I’m not sure that I had anything made for me. But I wore beautiful hand-me-downs.
HENRY: What was
Charles Bickford like off-camera?
SARA: You know he was
gruff, very plain-spoken. He wrote a
book called BULLS, BALLS, BICYCLES AND ACTORS.
Very old-school conservative, and with a heart as big as the sky. And so generous and gracious. And he did not feel well; he was not well
even in that last year, and I don’t know how old he was, but he was not a young
man. And he was just very kind to us, to
both Don and me.
HENRY: Did you have
any favorite guest stars?
SARA: Oh, I loved
working with Peter Duel; he was my favorite.
And Charles Bronson – that was so exciting to work with him. I was such a fan of his. Those were really fun experiences.
HENRY: And you were a
rider prior to the show.
SARA: Yes, I grew up
with horses. Mostly backyard horses in
the beginning, then I actually got to show horses, which was really fun. Then I worked in a summer camp, as a
wrangler, and there’s nothing like that.
Gary (Clarke) was telling stories about herding horses, and horses are
not easy to herd. Because they move a
lot faster than cows do, and they spook a lot faster. So we used to get up at
five in the morning, go up to the camp, go into a huge pasture, bring all the
horses in, saddle ‘em up, get them ready,
and take rides out all day long.
And we’d always get the dangerous ones, because you couldn’t put the
campers on them. So I learned most of
what I knew about horses that summer.
Sara Lane
HENRY: What have you
been doing since you left THE VIRGINIAN?
SARA: (My husband and
I) had a winery in Napa
for twenty-three years, called Haven’s Wine Cellars, and it was a good winery,
but we sold it about seven years ago.
The work that I’m proudest of after THE VIRGINIAN is that I used to work
in mental health, with an alternative agency, with schizophrenic street-women,
the ones they call shopping-cart ladies.
Opened a day center and a shelter on Santa Monica Pier. It’s funny how everything you do in your life
contributes to the next thing you’re going to do. The discipline you learn in a TV series – if
you’re late on the set it’s like a couple thousand; maybe a hundred thousand
dollars it’s going to cost someone.
In next week’s Round-up, I’ll
continue with more VIRGINIAN interviews, highlights of the panel discussion,
and my conversation with INSP’s Senior Vice President of Programming SVP Doug
Butts. Special thanks to INSP's Melissa Prince, who provided nearly all of the pictures from Saturday's event.
Pastor Mike heridan, 3rd from left
Directions from
points south of Agua Dulce; take the 5 or the 405 to the 5 to the 14 Freeway
(Antelope Valley Freeway) and exit at Escondido
Canyon Rd (next exit past Agua Dulce Canyon Rd. ). Turn left at the
top of the offramp, and turn on Old Stage Road, which will be the first left
with a street sign (you will drive through one cut hill, and Old Stage Rd. is
just after that on the left). Turn left and follow the road until you see a
large Mediterranean-style house with white ranch fencing behind it. The road
will curve around the back of this house, which shares a driveway with the Sheridan 's. Enter the
driveway and follow the signs. Address is 9424 Old Stage
Rd., Agua Dulce , CA
Call 661 268-8863 for further information.
CELLEBRATE ‘RAMONA DAYS’ SATURDAY 9/29 IN PIRU
In 1884 novelist Helen Hunt Jackson, eager to draw attention to the plight of California
Indians in the same way that Harriet Beecher Stowe exposed the evils of slavery
with UNCLE TOM’S CABIN, wrote RAMONA. It
was a publishing phenomenon, and although it may not have had as large a
political effect as the author had hoped, the romance of Ramona and Allesandro
continues to find new fans to this day. Though a work of fiction, Jackson set her story at
the very real Rancho Camulos, which was established in 1853 by Ygnacio de Valle. Its 1,800 acres were carved from the enormous
48,612 acre Rancho San Francisco, granted to de Valle’s father Antonio,
administrator and foreman of Mission San Fernando.
Located in Piru, Rancho Camulos, named for the Kamulos
Indians, is world famous as The Home of
Ramona, and has been a pilgrimage site for fans of the novel for more than
a century. And this Saturday, September
29th, the myth and history of RAMONA will come to life as Rancho Camulos
Museum hosts the 5th
Annual Ramona Days. The event runs from
10 a.m. until 4 p.m., and highlights include three performances of scenes from
the RAMONA PAGEANT, which has been presented every summer in Hemet since 1923, with the core cast from the
current production. The performances are
at 11 a.m., 1 p.m. and 3 p.m.
RAMONA has been filmed at least four times, memorably in
1936, with Henry King directing Loretta Young and Don Ameche in the leads, and
Technicolor at its most glorious. But
the first film version was made in 1910, on the actual locations at Rancho
Camulos, directed by the great D.W. Griffith and starring Mary Pickford and
Henry Walthall, and with a supporting cast that includes future king of comedy
Mack Sennett. Though a scant 17 minutes
in length, it’s a beautiful and moving film that tells the heart of the story
of RAMONA -- and you can watch it where it was actually shot!
Henry Walthall and Mary Pickford
You can also view unique
memorabilia and historic displays, experience living history and attend
presentations by Ramona experts such as ‘Ramona Memories’ author Dydia DeLyser,
Phil Brigandi, and film maker Hugh Munro Neely.
Linda "La Matadora" Andrade and her performers
will demonstrate the art of Flamenco. There will be food, music, art and craft
sales and demonstrations, original artwork by local artists, used book sales,
wagon rides, museum and garden tours, free children’s activities and more.
Visitors are encouraged to come in costume and character for a fun experience.
Tickets are $5 in advance, $10 at the gate, and you can
learn more about the event, and even read the entire text of the novel, by
visiting the Museum’s website HERE. http://www.ranchocamulos.org/index.html
At a time when many communities are cutting back library
hours or shuttering branches entirely, Old Town Newhall, neighbor to William S. Hart Park and Melody Ranch, is celebrating
the grand opening of their beautiful, huge facility on! Festivities begin at 10
a.m. with a literacy-themed street faire, and then Ribbon Cutting Ceremonies
begin at 10:30 a.m.!
There will be book-signings from 10 to 3. Western history
and fiction writers taking part include Julie Ann Ream; DEADWOOD regular Geri
Jewell; THE WESTERNERS author C. Courtney Joyner; and GUNSMOKE: AN AMERICAN
INSTITUTION author Ben Costello – both excellent reads.
Henry- That was a great day at the Autry!
ReplyDeleteGood stories and good laughs and a cool bottle of Gene Autry Root Beer.
Thanks for keeping us up to date on these not to miss events. That's livin'!
Mike
Thanks, Henry!
ReplyDeleteYou are 'TOPS' in reporting the best news around!
Been meaning to let you know just how much I enjoyed your contribution to my 'Read'Em Cowboy'event in July.
Sorry I missed the Virginian event at the Autry, heard it was great; but was away at another show honoring the Veterans in Indiana.
Hope to see you at the Old Town Newhall Library event this Saturday.
Love You!,
Julie
I was so sorry to miss it - Maxine Hansen of the Autry Entertainment and Boyd Magers were guests on "Around the Barn" sharing the plans for the day and I had every intention of going. The "19th Annual Hart of the West POWWOW" down the street from OutWest here in Newhall kept me away. What a great time was had by all!
ReplyDeleteIt sounds so exciting. Where can I find more about Ramona? I so enjoyed reading this. Thanks.
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